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				 Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Taking Crystal out of a background | 
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				I photographed a piece of Sywroski Crystal, with a white background, soft box and another umbrella flash light.  Solid White Background with proper WB adjustments on the camera.  I am trying to get the background out of this image.  The way the crystal is, I have light reflection all over the crystal (an effect that I want to keep) but do not want to see the background as this is going in a publication.  Any ideas?  I tried the standard path around the object, however it is way too intricate to get all of the jagged edges.  Any ideas???
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Can you show us what you are looking at..A picture is worth a thousand words. If you don't want to because of publication issues can you show us something similar?
 
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				 Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				unlock the Background and right-click > blending options.  Under blend if grey, drag the white slider over a bit.  Hold ctrl to break it apart, which will help remove hard edges.  the only problem with this is it'll also get rid of white inside the crystal, so make a new layer under it  and paint some white there.   If you want the background completely white, you can just as eaily add a solid colour layer under it.
		
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				 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:43 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Here is the image that I shot.  If you think I should re shoot or there is something different to try let me know and I will try.  
 
 
Thanks for you help...it is greatly appreciated.
 
If I can find a really good, dependable freelance photo editor, I would be interested in speaking with them about freelance position with a natinal magazine.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Probably won't be hard to find one of those here, but it's kinda hard for me to find your picture.
		
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				 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Image is not attached...
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I got bored after about 8 minutes, but here's where I got to.  The thing is, the crystal just doesn't look nice against a white background
		
	
          
					 
	
	
		
	 
	
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:37 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				here's a black background
		
	
          
					 
	
	
		
	 
	
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Well here's my shot at it...
 
I cut it out by masking it...lightened it with the adj. curve and screen mode.
 
I didn't like it floating in thin air so I put it back on its box but blacked out a little...made a little render light spot behind it.
 
 
Just an idea...the cutting out is very do-able.
 
The light greys pick up the back colors nicely.
 
 
Fun thanks for sharing.
 
 
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