Save As jpeg in CS5 plugin?

pjbw · Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: Save As jpeg in CS5 plugin?

I find the standard File, Save As JPG in CS5 in W7 very limited.
I have taken to working in TIFF in CS5 and saving as JPG in Paint Shop Pro 9 (does not support PSD). PSP9 has a much more comprehensive interface and better oportunities for tuning the final file.
Does anyone know of a plugin for CS5 which is better than the standard option?

thehermit · Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject:

Welcome to the forum pjbw.

How you save a file depends upon your intended output. If you want to put it on Facebook, you may may want to compress and make it smaller, your best chance is probably JPEG. If you want to send a lossless file to some client that wants to publish in a magazine perhaps you would furnish that image in PDF or TIFF (other lossless formats not withstanding).

Really the question is; what do you want to do with the image?

pjbw · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:49 am Post subject:

I know exactly what I want to do with my saved jpg's. Some for high quality printing, some as email attachments, some for web sites.
PSP gives me the control I want, CS5 default doesn't.
PSP gives me options for encoding, compression, chroma subsampling, before and after quality views, compressed size in bytes.
There must be a comparable plugin for JPG in PS out there somewhere (lots for TIFF!).

Frank1263 · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:23 am Post subject:

In the file menu choose "save for web and devices"

pjbw · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:46 am Post subject:

I've found a plugin which optimizes the creation of jpg's in CS5 in Windows. Check WinSoftMagic.

thehermit · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject:

There are a few output programs that 'squeeze' more out of a JPEG than Photoshop can. File Minimizer is a free program that does just that. Debate can be held as to the usefulness or not. I tend to use it only when quality doesn't meet the trade-off from file size.

As far as I can tell, Photoshop accomplishes all that you want from your images but you can't really do it all post/as saving. Photoshop expects you to have got it right before printing/export not try and 'make it better' afterwards.

Saying that, I had to look up Chroma subsampling and whilst not familiar with the term, admit it looks interesting. Once again though I would have to question its use post rather than pre-saving the file.

You could set up a batch action for saving your files, even to go as far as setting up stop points in the process to address some of the concerns you have in your workflow, but I fear that I may not be the best candidate to persuade you

pjbw · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:27 am Post subject:

"Photoshop expects you to have got it right before printing/export not try and 'make it better' afterwards."
Accepted! Though where PSP and WinSoftMagic score over PS is that they let one see in detail the effect of varying amounts of compression, before and after side by side.
I haven't got to grips with chroma subsampling yet but it seems that WSM allows one to use varying amounts of compression for different parts of the picture. This looks interesting but who knows; PS's plugin may do all this automatically. (WSM installs itself as a .8bf plugin in PS)
I may have to be careful with my workflow. WSM only works with 8 bit source images. If I change my PSD file from 16 bit to 8 bit in Edit, Mode to save as a LPG, can I change it back again without damaging it. This file format business looks to be a minefield!

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