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sargan

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject: Channel Mixer ? Reply with quote

I have a lot of Underwater Photographs .. and have used many techniques, plug-ins, actions; to try & correct for extreme cyan colour cast.

One of the recent methods I have seen is using the Channel Mixer, I don't really understand much about using this - anybody aware of any tutorials on this ?

The way it is used in this video clip would be typical of what I have to deal with, be nice to understand more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFhrTQJg6MI&feature=youtu.be
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jerryb4417

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
there a lot of tutorials on the channel mixer but they don't go in depth on exactly what it is doing the tutorial you posted is about the best really

now you can look at this one but i don't think will address what your looking for...
http://www.photoshopeducation.blogspot.com/2010/01/channel-mixing-photo-filter.html

now another meathod i use when addressing a bad channel is that replace the channel ... basically copy to clipboard a good channel and then paste to the bad channel and go from there..

i think the basic difference between the two meathods is one is non distructive and the other is distructive
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jerryb4417

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi again,
actually this tutorial similar but this one mentioned, which i think is a accurate statement is that your actually blending the channels....
http://www.deke.com/content/photoshop-and-lost-undersea-channel
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sargan

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ... anything else you can think of let me know - keen to learn.,
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jerryb4417

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i am not sure what you need... i have tons of bookmarks and i have some favorite sites i go to ..

if you can give me some areas... i am sure i can come with something
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sargan

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jerryb4417 wrote:
hi,
i am not sure what you need... i have tons of bookmarks and i have some favorite sites i go to ..

if you can give me some areas... I am sure I can come with something


That link I pasted into OP
That is typical of majority of pics I want to adjust. (not all that bad though)
Underwater Photography has a couple of specific issues ... there is serious lack of any Red light, it is filtered out as you go deeper - hence cyan cast.

There is also typically low light

There is often serious backscatter where light is reflecting of detritus in the water.


I deal with each separately ....
Currently trying to improve my skill & understanding of Channel Mixer, as it gives such excellent results in far fewer steps.

My ever changing workflow is posted here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?pde26oj4v7y5j09


I have CS5 extended running on W7 32bit, a decent gpu card and good 21" digital monitor
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jerryb4417

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

actually as far as unwater there isn't too much difference on handling them... found a few tutorials that may help but keep in mind that basic tools used you maybe already familiar with it will be in the work that different.., also the way looked at the underware issues... is like if i am seeing either something that has lot of haze or a color cast.. so included some tutorials that covers that area...

now sometime what i do.. is i'll mask off areas for example
maybe mask off the water and then adjust the color for the objects.. then do a mask of the objects and adjust the water ...

http://photoshoptutorials.ws/photoshop-tutorials/photo-retouching/underwater-photo-retouching.html

http://photoshoptipsfromkeao.blogspot.com/2008/03/fixing-underwater-pictures-in-photoshop.html

http://www.photoshop-pack.com/details/Photo_Color_Cast_Correction/14141

http://www.lunacore.com/photoshop/tutorials/tut016.htm

http://www.tutcity.com/photoshop/color-cast-six-ways-to-remove.22978.html
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sargan

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, I'll go follow the links ..

I have tried a couple by 'deke' but the style doesn't work for me - too much like Jim Cramer (Mad Money CNBC)

If you know of any good Ps course to go through on line let me know ...

Worked my way through these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeDKMOL5hhE&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_248003

Pretty good .. guy knows his stuff, and puts it over well.

Also watched a few of the Youtube videos by Ranash (he was in OP) his presentation style is great .. have to try find some more of his stuff.

I'm not into creating works of art, or something Warhol would be proud of .. just the ability to tweak, adjust, cut extracts etc. to make best of my photographs.
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jerryb4417

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
in general, take look at katrines books , this is a website that show some of her books, she considered one of the experts especialywith retouching...
http://www.katrineismann.com/

video tutorials...
mark johnson is good...
http://www.msjphotography.com/ the only thing is he only keeps his videos online for just a few weeks..
note: if you think you have a intersting photo and/or a interesting question which i think you have.. you can upload... and he may choose your phto and question to use in a clip ...

russel brown is another very good one, he has two sites where his stuff is shown ... he one of the top honcho's at adobe, he a character

http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/the-russell-brown-show/advanced-masking-with-photoshop-cs5/

now another is bert monroe... again he very good a fast talkers... this particular video i love since show different ways to change color and it straight forward.. ... mightbe usefull for you..
http://revision3.com/pixelperfect/colorize

here is main list of videos
http://revision3.com/pixelperfect/episodes

but that a couple of my favorites...

i imagin also noise issues....
a couple of things i can say here..
ps nver been great on this... however there techniques... beside. using mask...
a. using freq seperation techniques.... that seems the latest i have seen on other boards...
b. this tutorial been working with
http://www.digiretus.com/tippek/cikkiro.php?SORSZAM=120&

c. and there always the high pass filter...

now sharpening and unbluring... ps never been really good on this... minor things not bad but otherwise not good and third party stuff seems to be bette... focus magix i like but they don't have 64 bit verson yet .. but there motion blur corrections looks really good...
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