issue uploading .swf or .gif to hosting sites

Orwell

hi, was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction for what im doing wrong.

ive created a base image in PS CS5, using various filters, including some flaming pear ones and eye candy, using the .PSD with layers, ive then animated it with AE.

on my computer it works and (for my first attempt of animating any of my work) i think looks quite good, but when i try to upload it to photobucket, tinypic, flikr or any other site, either as an .swf or .gif it gets almost to the end of the upload, then gives an error message.

this happens no matter how i convert it to either format and no matter what quality or size file i make it. (all of which work flawlessly on my PC and are always within the hosting sites file limits)

could one of the filters be an issue? or could anyone point me in the right direction?

thehermit · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject:

Welcome to the forum, in truth I have no real idea, although I would expect some proprietary code or a flash breaker. Not my area, so can't really say, but I suppose I was just headed the same area as you.

Have you tried the same operations, without the filters? (in a one by one eliminating process)

Orwell · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject:

thanks for the welcome

eliminating the filters one by one was going to be my next step.

found this forum while searching for a solution and thought i would ask before converting and rendering for every different combination to try to find a possible culprit, without even being sure if that is whats causing the issue.

the error when trying to upload to any of the hosting sites is always something along the same lines of operation failed, cant process, both with .swf and .gif

can provide details of all filters used, animation added, frame rates, etc if anyone thinks it would help in identifing the problem. ive use all of the filters before on still images, and uploaded with no problems, but never with animation. i dont think there should be any liciencing issues with the plugins, but maybe i should read the terms better (or at all)...

also i should add; ive checked the files on other computers too, with different OS, slower processors and graphics than the one ive been working on, and they work fine on those as well.

any help apprciated

thehermit · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject:

Is it a 32bit plugin vs a 64bit OS/version of PS?

Orwell · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:01 am Post subject:

not sure, but the plugins all say they work with PS x64 (which is what im using, on win 7 x64) and uptil now they all have. im going to run some drm removers on an .avi version, and see if it picks anything up. if that fails, then its the long painfull removing filters one by one Frown

Orwell · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:37 am Post subject:

if anyones interested, turned out i was just being too ambitious with frame rates for the resolution and number of effects used. dropped it a couple of fps, reconverted, it then uploaded fine, with no noticable drop in quality.

glad it wasnt the filters, ive stared using a lot in photo editing recently, and its good that i can transfer what ive learnt with that to animation

jerryb4417 · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:25 am Post subject:

hi,
i am interested and curious.. i deal a lot with animated gifs... not complicated stuff but enough i know my way around...

and i didn't why there would be a problem just uploading,,, to me uploading a file and playing file on a site 2 seperate tasks....

it difficult to see where the frame would effect the uploading to a site although i can see the frame being factor if it start to play on a site...

I probably missed the point that you meant both uloading and playing...

what was the frame rate you were using and what did you change it to...

very curious on that because the sites i uploaded and run on the site , i have had that issue...

Orwell · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject:

im not really sure why there was a problem either, as i said i havent really played around with animation before, oh and it is just uploading i was talking about.

mediainfo for .avi and .swf below:

Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 183 MiB
Duration : 30s 0ms
Overall bit rate : 51.3 Mbps
Recorded date : 2011-12-04T17:59:29.0082Z

Video
ID : 0
Format : RGB
Codec ID : 0x00000000
Codec ID/Info : Basic Windows bitmap format. 1, 4 and 8 bpp versions are palettised. 16, 24 and 32bpp contain raw RGB samples
Duration : 30s 0ms
Bit rate : 51.3 Mbps
Width : 956 pixels
Height : 149 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 6.416
Frame rate : 15.000 fps
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 24.000
Stream size : 183 MiB (100%)

Format : ShockWave
File size : 66.6 MiB
Duration : 30s 0ms
Overall bit rate : 18.6 Mbps

Video
Duration : 30s 0ms
Bit rate : 17.9 Mbps
Width : 956 pixels
Height : 149 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 6.416
Frame rate : 15.000 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 8.364
Stream size : 63.9 MiB (96%)

i converted the .gif from the .avi, i think i ended up doing it at 12fps, and then it uploaded to photobucket, and flickr fine, the 15fps just wont, it gets to around 94-99% uploaded, then and error message pops up, saying unable to process file (on all sites). still havent managed to get the 15fps .swf uploaded. (which is why i tried converting to .gif in the first place)

i dont know anything about the limitations of .gif and .swf, i only stated doing this as i wanted to animate a banner that i had made in photoshop, it is around 20 layers almost all of which have several filters, even before i added the animation and lighting with AE, so maybe it is too much for the format?

still, the banner looks good, the reduced frame rate doesnt seem to inpact on the effect, and ive learnt how to use after effects, which ive been meaning to have a look at for a while. now have plans for some more complex animation projects, a friend has given me a short story that he wrote, and im going to see what i can do with that. and that i can keep as an .avi after animation is done, so none of this messing around. but i would still like to know why i had problems, i might be doing similar things with banners again, so would be good to know...

edit: forgot to say; the .gif converted from .avi are between 8-26MB depending on the frame rate used, the final one was around 22MB, that seemed to be as much as could be handled without throwing up error messages when uploading.

jerryb4417 · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject:

hi

before iforget you might be intersted in this article..
http://www.manifest-tech.com/media_pc/avi_formats.htm

i still can't understand why thosesites give you problem justuploading a file unless, and i have seen some site do this, while uploading there checking inside the file!!!!!!! before they accept and this is a guess, there something with some codes inside the file they don'tlike.... i can easily see that with avi file since there different flavors of avi .... and with flash that basically a container format... so again sites see something there it disagree with......

but the gif file... that something different.... gif format pretty standard... unless photoshop conversions filters(codecs), there a issue with THEM!!

tip.. if your going to be doing a lot of video... you might want to check out
videohelp.com ... a very active board and covers all areas of video .......

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