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Netaddict

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:41 am    Post subject: layers palette Reply with quote

A really stupid question coming up, drum-roll please.....

In the layers palette what's the difference between opacity and fill?
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thehermit

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Opacity effects the overall layer and everything on it, more often fill is used for layer styles and opactiy.

Clear? No? I almost confused myself!

Opacity vs. Fill

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Netaddict

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the quick reply.

Yes I'm still confused but a little experimentation, things might become clearer.

As far as I understood you, opacity affects the overall opacity of a layer but fill affects the opacity of affects.
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SCTRWD

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aside from different behavior of some of the Layer Styles, some of the Blend modes for a layer work differently with fill and opacity.
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Netaddict

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Aside from different behavior of some of the Layer Styles, some of the Blend modes for a layer work differently with fill and opacity" Why does Adobe create these confusing features?
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jerryb4417

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
it not a stupid question.... this is one of the those questions hard to see and yet simple although i still sometime have a hard time with the difference between fill and opactiry.. and applying the info... in projects.. plus like a lot of people very seldom even think about the fill...

in essence
1. opacitys effects all elements on the layer... simple as that
2. where as fill only effect the main object on a layer, and not anything else....!!!! this can be very usefull ...

this is a little tutoial that maybe explains alittle better than i can..... and you can get a sense how to use it in your projects..
http://creativebits.org/photoshop/fill_vs_opacity_in_ps_layers
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thehermit

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks jerryb, that would seem to clarify :)
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SCTRWD

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why does Adobe create these confusing features?


For several Blend modes(Color Burn, Linear Burn, Color Dodge, Linear Dodge, Vivid Light, Linear Light, Hard Mix) Fill opacity behaves non-lineary and have sutly different effect then regular opacity.

For Burn modes, for example, fill opacity has the effect of exaggerating the result in the darks.

For Dodge modes, for example, fill opacity increases the contrast at the light areas.

And sometimes it is just the thing you want for your image.

So these features are not confusing, it just takes time and practice to find the right use for them :)
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renata

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy demo:
Try writing some large text and giving it a drop shadow adjustment layer. Then leave the opacity at 100% but reduce the fill to 0. You get nothing there but an interesting drop shadow in the shape of the letters.
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