photos display differently in other programs

elementphil

Hey everyone. It's my 1st post. I got a Nikon D70 and Photoshop Elements (2) and am diving into it. I recently took some photos at a birthday party, and imported them into my powerbook via iphoto. They look alright, but when I edit those same pics in Elements, they display slightly different!

For example, my sister n law just had a baby. His skin is pink in iPhoto, but almost splotchy-red in Photoshop. Is this a program thing or jpeg thing?? Thanks for your insight.

Let me know if you need more information.

witam · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure about photoshop elements, but i know that photoshop has its own colorscheme. I suspect it is used in elements as well, but i'm not entirely sure.

But if you have it in elements, you can change it, if you want. (i know in photoshop it's like this: Edit/colorsettings)

Hope this helps you some..

thehermit · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject:

Its a colour management issue. Check to see the profile of your camera and then match the settings with a complimentry one in Photoshop.

If you need colour management links for Photoshop I might have a few, just shout if you need them and I will see what I can dig out. You could do worse than consult the F1 helpfiles that are within PS.

(having said that I am not sure Elements has the same colour management as PS but I imagine it would)

elementphil · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:07 pm Post subject:

I found a color settings in Elements. It was set to "no color management." I had 2 other options: Limited color management and Full color management. I picked Full color.

Don't know if it'll help, but can someone explain what this changes?? I'm the kinda guy who not only wants to fix it, but wants to know HOW/WHY it fixed it.

Thanks ya'll.

TiDaL · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:09 pm Post subject:

search adobe site, prolly under "color management"

witam · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject:

I found this and it explains what these choices are about:

Preference & Options
One of the first things I usually do with any new application is go to the preferences and options to set the application up to function as I would like. There are two setup dialogs available at the bottom of the Edit menu selection list in Elements--Preferences and Color Settings. For the novice user, the Preferences can remain at their default settings, but the Color Settings demand immediate attention. This is the dialog that controls how Elements use color management. There are only three choices and, unlike Photoshop 5.5 and 6.0, there are no profiles to choose or settings to make other than selecting one of the three options. The first is No Color Management, the meaning of which is obvious, and should only be used if you want Elements to function in monitor colorspace. The second "Limited" color management sets Element’s workspace to the sRGB colorspace profile, and should be selected only if your output is going to the web. The third option is "Full" color management, which uses the Adobe RGB (1998) colorspace as Element’s workspace, and should be your selection if you are outputting photo-realistic images to a printer, for instance.

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Hope this helps...

(btw the link to this page is: http://www.shutterbug.net/test_reports/0501sb_adobe/ )

webguy · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:07 am Post subject:

Color management is a complex issue..
It involves knowing how the eye percieves color, how your monitor is setup-calibration, and how your programs are setup and more besides.

The reason you see your images slightly different is because your image likely has a color profile embedded. To correct this you could do like Witam suggested and choose do not manage, although a method specifically for this purpose exists. Go into image > Mode > Assign Profile. When the window pops up choose 'Do Not color manage'. Or you could select a color profile that enhances your image. This profile would be embedded, but since there really is no standard used by all media formats you will still see slight differences. Across programs, printers, screens, MEDIA formats.

You should first calibrate your monitor, choose to not color manage, and then tweak your photo using levels and curves and color correction. Then you should decide if you want to use a color profile. By using one you do risk getting differing colors across media formats. As well as the image mode also matters, for ex: using rbg or cmyk you get different color profiles. If you plan to view this image on a computer screen use rgb, if for print use cmyk.

How to fix your image. For the red or magenta in the image, adjust the colors balance. It will be red if the image is in RGB mode, magenta if in CMYK mode. If for print you could try setting up your printer to use the same color profile as that of the image, if it has one.

If you want to know the whys and how, do a google search for color management, Color engineering, or image manipulation.

I could be wrong about some of ths stuff I've spouted off.. if that's the case I'm sure (and encourage) someone with more experience will come along to correct my errors.

teddc · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject:

try this link
http://www.normankoren.com/color_management.html

ted

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