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changedsoul
Joined: 23 Apr 2011
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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:23 pm Post subject: Question about In Camera Processing and Shooting Raw |
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Hey, new one here, to the forums and to photography.
I got this new camera a few months ago and have been learning how to use it for my up coming trip in a week. I have mostly been shooting in jpg mode but after reading about using RAW coupled with the fact that this might be my last time taking this trip, I figured I would try some RAW and jpg comparisons. If I happen to stumble on a awesome scene and take it with jpg only to find out when I get home it didnt come out right...well, I would be happy to have a raw copy I can play with to try and save it.
So I took some shoots with using RAW+jpg so I could compare the results. Bare with me, these shots are not professional 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/changedsoul/5647161490/in/set-72157626560714846/
I am trying Adobe Photoshop Elements to alter the raw files. I am strapped for money so I cant afford a full version of Photoshop. So in the pictures I have two sets. One of my bikes, and one off my stairs into a neighboring parking lot. Both sets have a RAW and a JPG image. The RAW Image I opened in Elements using its Camera Raw Prog. The white balance was selected as "As Shot" and everything else was selected as "Image Settings".
Now from what I have gathered about RAW files is they contain no processing but do contain meta data that contains all the camera settings and would be processes should it have been set for jpg.
So the settings in "Camera Raw" being set to "As Shot" for white balance and "Image Settings" for everything else, would this not put processing on the RAW image to make it look like what the camera would have done to it if it were a jpg?
So in my first pic of the bikes, the jpg and the RAW are clearly different. As with the outside shot, they seem fairly similar but the jpg seems to have richer color. What am I missing? If I tell Camera Raw to apply the image settings stored from when I took the shot, should not both the RAW and the JPG now look the same?
What am I missing? |
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thehermit
Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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Location: Cheltenham, UK
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Welcome to the forum changedsoul.
| Quote: | | would this not put processing on the RAW image to make it look like what the camera would have done to it if it were a jpg? |
I think you may be missing the crux of the matter somewhat. As you surmise the information is held in meta-data only, no actual changes occur to the image or its data. We have to assume (my opinion only) that you are shooting with the wrong exposure settings. I guess you have colour managed your JPEG's too or tagged them with a profile.
I am a little confused though with the labelling of the images the first image, labelled DSC_008 is a RAW file, the subsequent image is labelled RAW from Camera, is this meant to be the JPEG?
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changedsoul
Joined: 23 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I am a little confused though with the labelling of the images the first image, labelled DSC_008 is a RAW file, the subsequent image is labelled RAW from Camera, is this meant to be the JPEG?
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Yeah sorry, I should have explained it a bit better. The first image of the bike is a jpg straight out of the camera and posted on flikr. The second one of the bike labeled "Raw from camera" was RAW image from the camera that I opened up in "Camera RAW" using Elements, I then applied the Settings "Image Settings" and WB Settings " As Shot" to the RAW image. ( I thought this applied all the setting that were saved to the meta data to the RAW image). I then Saved this RAW files as a JPG and posted it on flikr. |
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Mortisha
Joined: 10 May 2011
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One major thing you must do is to turn off Active D lighting if you are shooting in raw with a Nikon. If you dont then pictures can come out underexposed.
Its not a problem if your are using nikon software to process your image because nikon capture will automatically adjust the underexposure back again.
If you are processing in Cs or lightroom you are just making yourself problems. |
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