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- Cal303 -
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 Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:28 am Post subject: Print related question |
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Ok so i've established that you cant really achieve bright colors in CMYK for printing adverts etc. Like a very bright lumo green for example.
(Or am i wrong ??)
But then how do they achieve the bright colors in books that get printed ?? If all print work should be done in CMYK ??
Im busy making an advert with a bright green snake on, when i convert to CMYK the snake isnt very bright anymore. But then just the other day i was looking at a snake book, all the photos were bright and colorful !!
Please can someone help me out here...
It would be greatly appreciated !! |
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- Cal303 -
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Bazman
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Those bright colours may have been achieved by spot colours. CMYK has a gamut range which does not always produce vibrant colours. If you create spot colours the printer will create special plates which allow these brighter colours. In other words you will have C-M-Y-K plates plus the extra SPOT plates to output your vibrant colours. Also there are special processes i.e. hexachrome which can create more vibrant colours..... How many times can I type the word colours!
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- Cal303 -
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: |
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THANKS for the reply Barry ...
I'll start doing some research on spot colours and stuff. I've never heard of that before!
Sounds complicated
Thanks again - if you feel like throwing around some more knowledge - feel free !! |
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- Cal303 -
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Bazman - I dont understand the process of using pantone colours.
Have been looking into it all day - i downloaded a pantone colour chart for my swatches tab in photoshop. But im not too sure how the process of using pantone colours works!
The colours in the swatch tab are labelled as PANTONE 3288 PC for example...
I'd like to achieve this green (or something very close to it) on a business card
On the list of pantone colours the closest to it is this
It looks like you cant just convert into Pantone like you would CMYK ...
Do i have to purchase Illustrator or Indesign ?? Is it easy to use Pantone colours in these two programs ?? Or is it much the same ??
I only have Photoshop at the moment ...
OR AM I GOING ABOUT THIS IN THE TOTALLY WRONG DIRECTION ??
Please assist where you can - I see from your website you do brochures and stuff - Do you use pantone colours or do you only work in CMYK ?? |
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- Cal303 -
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I know this sounds stupid - but this is really very new to me!
Im gonna have to buy a Pantone colour bridge when working with pantones in order to see what the colours will look like when printed ... Not so ??
Sorry for becoming a bit of a post whore for the time being!! |
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Bazman
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Printing can be a right pain sometimes. The reason for colours not being vibrant in CMYK is because when combined the colours absorb light, RGB when combined reflects it. Have a read of this link, it explains it better than I can.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_color
Pantone colours are standardised combinations of CMYK, when you send a file to the printer with a pantone colour, which I always create in indesign or quark they can see that pantone and will make a seperate plate.
The paper also plays a big part in creating vibrant colours. The best thing is to talk to your printers as they will be able to advise you on the best solution.
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- Cal303 -
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Ok thanks Bazman ...
I'll keep on looking into it! When using pantone colours can you save the file with any extension i.e PDF
And you work in CMYK colour mode even when using pantone colours hey ?? Or is it LAB colour mode in Photoshop. I think im gonna get Indesign and Illustrator anywayz...
Thanks again |
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Bazman
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Always CMYK when printing. I never use Pantones etc in PS always in quark and Indesign. Have been looking into hexachrome printing myself as I have some business cards which I need really vibrate. This seems to be the best method to use.
This is what my printers say about hexachrome.
[url]http:/www.rcs.plc.uk[/url]
For most printing conventional colour made up of cyan, magenta, yellow and black is quite acceptable. Where extra vibrancy and impact is needed Hexachrome maybe the answer. In the Hexachrome process the normal cyan, magenta, yellow and black colours of conventional printing are supplemented with orange and green. This means a much greater range of Pantones can be reproduced accurately, and pictures look much more vibrant and life-like..
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- Cal303 -
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| Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the info Barry - Appreciate it
Hexachrome ... Hmmm A much wider range of colours, and more life like you say. Sounds very interesting. All i want is to be able to achieve very bright colours like lumo green or lumo pink - i dont care how i get it, lol
Going to start using Indesign shortly ... |
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