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nick p 182
Joined: 12 Aug 2005
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 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: why do images come out darker when i print from photoshop |
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i printed out an image today for the first time from photoshop cs and it was really dark and look really bad how can i stop this?  |
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Gallo_Pinto
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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Location: BC, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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you need to properly adjust your monitor and printer. You can calibrate your monitor using adobe gamma, available in the control panel.
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stevealmighty
Joined: 14 Jul 2005
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Location: upstate NY (WAY UPSTATE!)
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| Gallo_Pinto wrote: | | you need to properly adjust your monitor and printer. You can calibrate your monitor using adobe gamma, available in the control panel. |
Agreed. Printing is a touchy deal, and it's hard to get a print to look exactly like what you're looking at on the screen. I calibrate my monitor, use different profiles when printing, get my print fairly close to what I'm looking at on my monitor, then adjust my image via photoshop so that when it prints, it'll look good, even though it may look like crap on my monitor.
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SteveS
Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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nick p 182 - I would recommend that you also print that same image in another program, any program, such as Microsoft Paint or Imaging (which comes with Windows) for instance, just to see if it is only in Photoshop that the print comes out dark.
But be sure to do the monitor calibration that was suggested by Gallo_Pinto. That is a must. |
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Gallo_Pinto
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maybe now would be a good time to admit I've never calibrated my monitor?
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stevealmighty
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| Gallo_Pinto wrote: | | maybe now would be a good time to admit I've never calibrated my monitor? |
BAD BOY! Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done! 
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cbadland
Joined: 19 Jan 2005
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| stevealmighty wrote: | | Gallo_Pinto wrote: | | maybe now would be a good time to admit I've never calibrated my monitor? |
BAD BOY! Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done! |
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cbadland
Joined: 19 Jan 2005
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You have to have all your ducks in a row to get a print that looks like what you see on your monitor, starting by running Adobe Gamma. After you do that, check this site for a simple tutorial on printing from Photoshop.
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_print/ps7_print_1.htm
One recommendation I’d make is to use high quality paper and ink the same brand as your printer, and make sure you have the latest paper profiles downloaded from their site. |
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stevealmighty
Joined: 14 Jul 2005
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Color profiling for printing is a pain in the buttocks. At my work, we had $900 top of the line CRT monitors, along with $1,000 color calibration software that read the monitor colors with a light/color sensing device, profiles up the ying-yang and top of the line Fuji Pictrograph 4000 printers with calibration scanners that cost about $5,000 each, and my color is still off. We've recently switched over to flat panel LCD monitors (ViewSonic, $600 each), and our color is still off, but it's a little closer.
There are companies that do nothing but go around and color calibrate monitors and printers for other large companies, and make tons of money at it.
I find it best to make a print, see how close or how far off I am, then adjust the image in photoshop so that it'll look good when it prints, even if it looks like crap on the monitor. After a while, I learn what to expect to come out of my printer, and can usually make prints with little or no wasted pictures.
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cbadland
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As much as I like the “photo” quality of the Fuji Pictrographs, the color and contrast never seemed spot-on to me from the photo-labs who processed my files. I think the new generation of ink-jet printers (like the 8-ink, UltraChrome K-3 series from Epson) probably produce more accurate colors than the Fuji 4000. Plus prints are as archival, if not more so.
EDIT:
Wow! I just checked image stability of Fuji Pictrigraphs compared to Epson Ultrachrome K-3 ink at Wilhelm Imaging Research ( http://www.wilhelm-research.com ).
Fuji Pictrographs will show fading or color-shift after 3-12 years.
The Epson Ultrachrome K-3 prints last 61 to over 300 years (!) before noticeable fading or color shift. |
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