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myoshell

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:48 am    Post subject: Canon EOS20D and print size - resolution Reply with quote

I would like to pose the following question:

I own a Canon EOS20D with a maximum size of 3504 x 2336 pixels. The manual claims that taken in RAW or JPEG format this will produce an 8.2MP image capable of reproduction at A3+ size.

I noted when importing these maximum size RAW files into photoshop that this was defaulting to 300 pixels per inch to match the pixel dimensions and produced a maximum print size (at 300dpi) of 207mm x 139mm. If I wanted to increase the print size I had to use an resampling process to keep the 300dpi print resolution. If I did not choose resample the print resolution dropped to 212 pixels per inch (dpi).

I checked this via a website www.scantips.com and found the following data which suggested that these figures were indeed correct:

"3504x2336 pixels will print 16.54 x 11.02 inches (420.0 x 280.0 mm)
at a MAXIMUM of 212 pixels per inch (83 pixels per cm)
(Maximum meaning any cropping lowers printing resolution)

3504 pixels / 212 ppi = 16.54 inches
2336 pixels / 212 ppi = 11.02 inches


This 3504 x 2336 pixel image size is 8.19 million pixels, with Aspect Ratio 3:2"

Therefore my question/dilemma is how can Canon claim to have A3+ print size from the maximum raw file when to do this (without upward resampling which degrades the image quality) requires a drop in print resolution to 212dpi, which is less than the generally recognised 300dpi for good quality digital photo prints?

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stevealmighty

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No clue. A+ paper size is 13 inches by 19 inches. As far as pictures go, that's an odd size for an actual print, and would be considered custom, therefore making it expensive to both print and frame.

The closest standard print size to A3+ is 11x17, then 11x14, 8x10,5x7,4x6,3.5x5, and 2x3 (all sizes in inches). Printing at 300 dpi, you should be able to crop your raw image at 11x17, and not notice any drop in quality, as raw size as you stated in your post is 16.54x11.02.

On a high quality professional printer, and with an image that is exposed correctly, then you shouldn't notice the difference when printing between 212 dpi and 300 dpi. If you are doing this professionally (ie selling your prints to customers), then chances are the guy that works at the local deli who is buying your print isn't going to notice that you've printed at 212 dpi instead of 300 dpi.

Also, you probably won't notice a diference if you shot in raw then cropped and saved as a jpeg (saved on the highest setting) and made a print.

How cannon comes up with their figures is beyond me. I know this doesn't answer your question, but hope it helps to put your mind at ease when it comes time to make a print.

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myoshell

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote

thanks Stevealmighty, this helps...also interesting article in dpreview.com forum for EOS20D users on image resolution by Doug Kerr....basically says the dpi or ppi doesn't mean anything and is simply a resolution which is dictated by the physical print size related to the maximum pixel size of the image i.e. Canon can say it prints to A3+ fine, and it will, i.e. 212dpi so should be fine just stand back further !!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could make a 300-fott poster for a building, and it'd look just dandy from a mile away.
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