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Winterchase

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Layering in a brass ball Reply with quote

I'm wanting to add something inside this brass ball. Maybe Earth, or a pretty woman, something. I'm new at this and have tried everything I can think of but.... I have Corel "Knockout," if that'll be any help, which I've used on several photographs.


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Auieos

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about the corel programs. In Photoshop they have a color selection command available in the selections menu.

Here is a transparent version of your picture. You will still need to remove the back side of the ball to make it appear as if something was inside of it.



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Winterchase

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:10 am    Post subject: Brass Ball Reply with quote

Auieos wrote:
Not sure about the corel programs. In Photoshop they have a color selection command available in the selections menu.

Here is a transparent version of your picture. You will still need to remove the back side of the ball to make it appear as if something was inside of it.


TKS. The only solution I've come up with is to erase the front parts of the ball that are over the "Earth," which is a second layer. It's not a very exact way of doing it.

I'll check out your tip on the color selection command. "Magic Wand" leaves a thin black (in this case) border and ragged edges. "Knockout" doesn't do that. And it's so exact it'll even leave wisps of hair. I started out shooting portraits of friends against a green screen but with "Knockout," that isn't necessary. I could have saved a pile of $ had I known.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that knockout looks good. Pretty sure there is some fancy tool in cs5 a bit similar.

if you Google 'cs5 masking tools' you get a lot of helpful videos and sites.

I'm probably living in the past with some of my methods.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good discussion to learn for me! Thank you all! :)
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Winterchase

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been suggested that I "cut" the ball in half, then use the front half on top, then the model (or subject) and the back half as a third layer in back. It's logical but....
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Auieos

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was me i would use a layer mask to place the earth in all the empty spaces, leaving both the front and the back of the ball visible.

Then zoomed in, carefully use a fairly hard brush on the layer mask to make the earth cover the back sections of the ball.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe like this?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outstanding! Now, how did you do it?

I cut out the back part, added about the same picture of Earth, only rotated the ball to make the shadows/light direction match, then deleted the front part of the ball and made it a bottom layer. It was an awful lot of trouble!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answer is the easiest way I could, the pic below says it all really!


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