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csmithphotography

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: cropping question Reply with quote

I want to be able to crop an image so that when i take it to the developer, I can print it in any size from wallet to 8x10 without having the white areas showing on the paper due to the cropping. when i use the crop tool to crop an image, what values do i need to enter in the width/height boxes to enable this?

Also, when i have several images up at once on PS, and i minimize one, i can't find it to maximize it again w/o going to the browser and cliking on it again. where does it go?

thanks for the advice...
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AgfaD2

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

csmith: Where are you located? off topic I know....


To answer your question it really all depends on the printer. My main suggestion is to ask a tech thats printing at whatever business you go through the procedure.

Personally when I crop or make a new canvas, I will always keep it in the same ratio that I want to print it in.

Meaning.

4x6
8x12
12x18
16x24
24x36

etc....etc....

I'm sure I missed a few but you get the point.


What version of PS are you running...not entirely sure whats going on with your minimize problem.
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csmithphotography

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: cropping question Reply with quote

I'm using PS 7 with wdws xp. To be a little more specific, say i want to crop a picture for a client and allow them to take that picture to a local drugstore printer or similar such as Wal-mart. If i crop with values entered as 4x6 and the client wants to print a 5x7 or 8x 10 (since alot of local places don't offer 8x12), should there be any problems with what's printed? I know that when you print a 5x7 or basically anything other than multiples of 4x6 there will be some cropping by the printer.

Also, when you crop a picture at a 4x6 value, is there any difference in quality or resolution of the final print than if you crop at, say 16x24 or is it all the same?
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AgfaD2

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always best to shoot at the peak of your camera. I own a Canon 10D and shoot in raw 90% of the time and then convert to .tiff when printing. Personal opinion I never save in .jpeg.

Drugstore printing and wal-marts are limited on features of there labs. I'm not sure what they do and do not offer but I wouldn't say much of either of them.

A 4x6 print is not the sane ratio as a 8x10. To solve that problem you would have to ask the printing company (whoever it be) to they have an option "print to fit" If they do your in the clear...


hope that helped a bit
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csmithphotography

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: where located... Reply with quote

I live in Bend, Oregon. Just moved here in '05 from Georgia.
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AgfaD2

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The information I gave, was it helpful?
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csmithphotography

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: cropping Reply with quote

it did somewhat. Normally when i do photography for a client i have the printing done by a pro lab so i have control over how the prints turn out. Sometimes a client will buy a CD with their images on them, allowing them to print them at their discretion wherever they want. That is my concern. If they take it into Joe's print shack or something, i want to ensure that when i crop a picture in PS 7 and the customer has a print done somewhere else, they aren't going to end up with something funky b/c of the way i cropped it. I understand that when an image is cropped to 5x7 or 8x10 or whatever, the image gets cropped somewhat by the printer. My main concern is that when i crop an image i input the correct values so that if they want a 4x6 or a multiple thereof it all works out fine. The other question i had was what is the difference if i input a 4x6 value vs. an 8x12 value or any other variable of 4x6. Does it change the quality of the picture at all? if i input a 4x6 value and the client wants an 8x12 will that affect anything vs. me putting in an 8x12 value (instead of the 4x6 value) when i crop? Hope i didn't confuse you. Thanks for the help by the way.
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AgfaD2

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not confusing at all. When you say you are cropping an image to a 4x6 aspect ratio what is the PPI (pixels per inch). If you have a set standard so to speak like 300? And all your images are set to 300 thats a good thing. However when you crop an image to a 4x6 so to say at 300, it will be a smaller file size than if you were to crop it to a 8x12 at the same resolution.


What type of files are you saving them as?

If you are trying to be as professional as possible and what to give your client the best possible output I would do several things which include:
-Giving them a hi-res file (.tiff) for large output
-A smaller file (.jpg) for small prints like 4x6 up to 12x18.

Yes it can be time consuming BUT it shows professionalism & quality.
I don't know how many images you are shooting but if you don't have one already invest in a DVD burner and some blank media. You can fit six times the amount of data stored on a data DVD rather than burning a whole bunch of data CDs'.

Good luck.
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