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				 Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: Critcism, honesty or politness | 
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				i am a member of a very popular webmastering site, and there is a graphics section, i used to frequent quite often. However a kid joined maybe 16 or so. He posted some of the most pathetic graphics ever. I mean i know beginners and all that get some allowance . but he never got better after months, and months, and he basically flooded the place with images that had one or two filter effects maybe a layer style and that was it. He used t post crummy graphics and say "hey (webmaster of the sites name here) you can use these graphics if you want!" and well the thing is, there was nothing you could say that was constructive criticism, i mean when you have nothing to work with, how do you politely say "be a better deisgner cause you arent one now"
 
The reason i being this up, is i think that too many people would rather say nice things, than actual useful criticism. _________________ *sketchkiddie*
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				yes but what if a person is genuinly crappy, sometimes true constructive criticism isnt nice _________________ *sketchkiddie*
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Sometimes the best solution is not say anything at all.
 
 
However, if you're really inclined to toss out your opinion, you can always tell them they need to learn quite a bit more before they can offer their services, and to direct them to some schools local to their area.
 
 
In most cases, the best way to communicate critically, is to do it in private.  Public criticism is oftentimes taken as a means to belittle or insult them, which essentially causes your message to be lost in the miasma of posturing and ego-defending.
 
 
Whatever you do, remember that there are people on the other side of the crap they spew.  Treat them with respect and civility whenever possible.  | 
			 
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				I find critique is a better approach than criticism. It's a fairly fine distinction but critique is honest, forthright and beneficial, it does'nt strive to hurt or offend, but it does not pander or molly coddle either.
 
 
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				it all sounds welland good, but modt people and sadly some admin and mods think anything less than slobbering is too negative _________________ *sketchkiddie*
 
 
 
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